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September 28, 2008 4:19 PM  (go back to main view)
Photographing Bill Clinton (Part II)

See part I yesterday

While the sheeps were watching Clinton’s suite, we hang out by the espresso machine, again. Casual as usual.

Something interesting happens in a scene like this. In hours before, the excitement is high and everybody is keeping an eye out for any unusual activity, security-wise. Yet it is known that the 1) plane with Clinton might not be able to land (due to the always changing and unknown weather situation at Faroe Islands) and 2) two or three backup plans exist which does not include the location we are at.

All the preparation, security sweep, bomb dogs, the blue (not red) carpet could turn out to be a waste of time and resources. A great disappointment if it happened that he took another route and another plan.

Lots of excitement.

But now, Clinton actually has arrived, he is in his suite doing whatever an ex-president does when he has just landed and needs some time alone. Only thing we can rule out is unpacking his luggage, because he doesn’t carry any. The suite is for crashing purpose only, he will be leaving again in few hours and will not return here to sleep. He will fly to Denmark straight after the speech.

Anyway. Some of us noted that one of the cars had golf equipment in it. So we speculate if he might eventually stay over night and play some golf in the early morning, then leave for Denmark. That plan would have a nice ring to it. Faroe Islands has a 9-hole golf course, which is not famous for anything but the fact that exists at such a distant location as the Faroe Islands.

They have been joking at the Faroe Islands for many years that they plan to build an 18-hole golf course. There are 18 islands that together make up what is called the Faroe Islands. So they joke that they will place one hole on each island.

And you never know with these faroe guys. When they move, they move in grand style and always very ahead of the rest of us. So why not an 18-hole golf course spread out over 18 islands. You really can’t tell from their expression because they always seem to joke about things, also the actual facts in life.

(I later learned that the island just outside Thorshavn is a 10 minute sail from Thorshavn, which I guess rules out hitting a golf ball all the way from this island to that. But I might be wrong. They might just do a sick thing like that anyways).

Maybe.

As they say here.

Hole no 10 should be approximately here…


Anyway, back to the espresso machine. The funny thing is that all the excitement has gone away. Everybody is relaxed and chatting, even the security guys just outside his suite. It’s like after you have been chasing this blond girl for six months and finally one day you get her in ways I won’t describe here and see her in as little clothing as only her mother has seen her. Then you relax.

That is the type of relaxation we’re talking about here.

The Harley has gotten a signature of Clinton. I didn’t see it, but Oliver told me the owner came out the hotel looking like a sun, both thumbs up and smiling from one ear to the other.

We chat, Secret Service and police is also hitting the espresso machine (it’s free espressos courtesy of the hotel, reason being that no cares to charge for espressos during a Clinton visit) and the hotel even brings white bread with butter and cheese.

A very casual moment, at the center of the known universe, watching the most important person alive. Are we in control or are we not.

We are.

Drinking coffee and eating bread with cheese while Clinton is doing whatever he is doing behind closed doors with loads of security on all sides of the room.

Oliver and I am planning our next step:

Should we get on the press buss that will be following Clinton to the venue (Nordens Hus) where he will be speaking? Or should we take a cab so we are already there when he arrives, thus getting another Clinton-arrival-scene?

We decide for the cab, but destiny makes another choice for us: When we get out, the cab we had ordered is empty. Apparently the driver went to see what the fuss was about. We have a cab but no driver. Not very useful.

Clinton anyhow decides to move earlier than expected why we line up outside to get the “Clinton-leaves-the-hotel-moment,” then jumps on the bus with the other press.

We’re already behind when we get onto the main road down to Thorshavn. It’s a three kilometer drive to the venue but Clintons cars continue and pass by them. He’s going for the city.

Faroe Islands have three traffic lights and we happened to jam in one of them (they are all within a radius of 500 meters). So some of us jump out the bus and run across town (1,000 meters I would say) with all gear flying around. We find Clinton bit up a street with a tale of security people after him. I’ve overtaken all press people but one at this point so I continue my run up that street, overtaking all security people on the way too.

I run a big circle around Clinton to be able to be in front, in the direction they are walking.

I’m like ruined. All the way running I remember thinking “I can’t do this. I must do it. I can’t. I must.” What a ridiculous thing to do.

Anyhow, Clinton is walking with the Prime Minister of Faroe Islands and they are entering the bookstore next to the tourist office and opposite the Town Hall. I was here the day before.

We wait outside and I guess everybody is speculating what’s the deal and what will happen next. It’s quite unexpected; also Clinton should be at the speaking venue in few minutes, according to schedule.

I shoot the growing crowd outside.

I shoot the security people and particular like this where a Danish police agent and an American Secret Service agent, they seem to have a moment. Maybe they just now discovered they have the same tie.

So Clinton finally comes out after a few minutes. It’s a great light but it’s hard to move around because there’s security and a crowd in a relatively small space divided by trees and fences.

Oliver tells me he would like a shot of the whole scene from the other side of the street. I do that, but in retro perspective I was divided in two. I wanted to do a good portrait of Clinton, preferably with the Leica R using slide film camera to obtain the optimum quality. On the other hand I wanted to show the event from an outside perspective, using a digital Leica to shoot many pictures and be able to move them by newswire quickly.

I do a lot of running in and out.

What starts now is what has become known as the famous “Fellini moment” (that’s Olivers expression).

Oliver told me, and in retro perspective it’s completely true, that during the next 60 meters Clinton walked, there was completely silence. It was like a ballet in slow motion.

Secret Service agents used the one arm to keep a crowd back, then turned their head to look up the street and use the other hand to get another crowd to stay there. Security guys doing this, forming a narrow path – almost like a security zone – for Clinton to walk. Meanwhile faroe people gathered in the street, waiting for Clinton to pass by, stretching out their hands to shake hands.

A Secret Service guy later told that he had never experienced anything like this: You reach out your arm and people just moved back voluntarily, by them self.

It really was quiet. It was elegant, civilized, nothing I’ve ever seen before in that manner. The traffic stopped and people stood out their cars and looked at the scenery as in “Close Encounters of the Third Kind.” They just stood there and watched.

The only real movement was Clinton, the Secret Service and the press. The crowd was just standing there and looking. I ran ahead, jumped up in some flowers to get the scene from above when Clinton would be passing by below me. Fortunately he would stop and talk with people, which enhanced the slow-motion-advantage.

I never understand why people prefer to put their attention into a camera or camera phone to capture an event rather than experiencing it in full (look who’s talking – I know I miss out a lot of stuff to get it on film; you can’t look through a camera and ‘be there’ at the same time).

Clinton actually stops to let this kid get a photo. He’s userfriendly, that’s for sure.

I’m moving parallel to Clinton in my flowerbed elevated above him. After 6-8 meters there’s no more flowerbed and the street turn left. I’m at the same level as Clinton now and he’s right in front of me. There’s a guy on the right who just shook hands with Clinton and there’s a guy on my left ready to do the same. Clinton looks at me, I look at him, I look at his hand. I shake hands with Clinton.

His handshake is comfortable, professional. It’s not hard. It’s kind of soft but firm.

I don’t know why I didn’t use the camera and the wide angle from in my left hand and from my left shoulder to capture what would have been a rare picture showing the viewpoint of a person shaking hands with Clinton. I didn’t. I should have.

It was truly a moment of unprofessionalism!

Another thing about this was that Oliver and I had discussed earlier in the day how funny it is that when you deal with the level of celebrity as Clinton and Tom Cruise, it’s not a professional event anymore. Journalists want autographs, handshakes and even bring their own digital cameras to take photos of the guy.

We agreed one had to decide beforehand if one was attending for professional or personal reasons, and then act accordingly.

Now, here I was photographing and shaking hands.

Hmm…

Oliver later commented this with “Yes I saw that. ‘That’s Thorsten shaking hands with Clinton.’ But it was like there was missing a person, good that you were there. It would have been odd if there hadn’t been anybody. He would have felt unwelcome.”

“It felt very natural that you were there to shake his hand. Good of you.”

Thanks Oliver.

You have your way with words.

The walk seemed to have come to the cars and I ran a bit away to get out of the crowd and prepare for leaving.

The moment we all dram of is the Clinton-coffee-moment because that was what he did when he visited Copenhagen years ago as a president. In a totally packed city square he delivered a real Clinton speech, amongst other good things crediting Denmark for being so right: “When we the Americans are in doubt about a situation in the world, on which side to choose, we look to Denmark. If we choose the same as Denmark, we usually come out right.”

Big applause.

After that speech, moving back to his limo in an overcrowded square, he suddenly changes direction and walks toward a coffee bar to get a cup of coffee.

That was the story of that year.

So anytime you say Clinton, I dream about him making an unexpected turn and follow a basic humanoid instinct such as wanting a cup of coffee, stop the limo and look at a lake, walk in a stranger’s house by the road … or something.

Anyhow, here I am in the middle of cars and a crowd, trying to locate a way out when I see a sign 20 meters away saying “coffee.”

You know, I don’t know. I haven’t gotten the faintest idea how. But I just move myself towards that thing in warp speed, get in, even have time to measure the light manually and find a good spot – still not really knowing anything – looks out the glass and then I see Security Service in front of the door.

Bingo.

If there’s anything worth calling intuition, that was it. Coffee is Clinton. Clinton is Coffee.

Then Clinton comes in.

I’m already in. What a great spot to be in.

[Continues tomorrow]


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Blog Comments (5):
Posted by mahomo on October 20, 2007 1:38 PM
great job, imagine if you'd got that pov handshake shot, in the future you'll wake up in a sweat in the middle of the night over that one :D
Posted by Arthur Mol... on October 19, 2007 10:53 PM
this is a great sequel to your first clinton blog ... i love this mini series! ;) loved the pictures again ... i agree with chris about feeling like i was there!!
Posted by CMphotogra... on October 19, 2007 5:11 AM
great story! i love reading about the work of people...especially when its as interesting as yours.
"It was truly a moment of unprofessionalism!"...that sentence made me laugh. hey, its ok to not take pictures sometimes...you got some great shots anyway. i wouldnt dare to stick a camera up to his face while shaking his hand. at least i'd find that very impolite.
and you've sure proven that you're a great photojournalist with your intuition about the coffee shop!
Posted by Chris on October 19, 2007 12:48 AM
good for you brother, i felt like i was there!!!!!

we all wish he were still president. we really really do.

he wasn't just good for the u.s. but ... for the entire world.

wish i could say the same were true for his wife.
Posted by gb hill on October 18, 2007 9:35 PM
What intuition, anticipating tomorrow. :-D
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Oct 06, 2008 8:42 PM
cheers for the add, really loving the photography ;>!!
Oct 07, 2008 4:53 AM
Thanks
Oct 06, 2008 7:13 PM
i cannot express with words how talented i think you are. each one of your photos have captivated me.
Oct 07, 2008 4:54 AM
Wow, thanks a lot. I've been drifting on that remark for the last 15 hours or so ;-)
Oct 06, 2008 9:00 AM
I like your page its so awsume
Oct 07, 2008 4:54 AM
Thanks
Wid
Oct 03, 2008 9:53 PM
Thank you so much for the very kind words, Thorsten. Getting that from a working photojournalist is always a real compliment. :) I started shooting in 2005, and the oldest photo in my uber portfolio is just from 2006. Definitely hoping to be even better in years to come! Thanks once again, and cheers from Indonesia!
Oct 07, 2008 4:58 AM
Well, you're simply the most talented guy I've seen in a long time ... or longer. You're basically at a level where the only thing you should aim at developing is the message. What do you want to tell with your pictures. And I hope you don't go the "World Press" way with hopelessness but go for a the message of life, spirit and hope.
Oct 03, 2008 2:53 AM
Yay! I think your efforts are giving results, alot of people is joining in and somehow it seems even more alive now...

Greetings from México!
Oct 07, 2008 4:59 AM
Hope to be of some service. It's a great and unique community.
Oct 02, 2008 8:59 AM
I've been reading you for about a half hour now. Beautiful photos. Your children are dolls.
Cant wait to see more!
Oct 07, 2008 5:00 AM
Thanks. You just inspired me to do another post. When you see three kids in one picture, that's the one for you!
Oct 01, 2008 5:32 AM
hello there :)
thanks for the add!
what's up?
Oct 07, 2008 5:00 AM
It's all up. Yes you can!
Sep 25, 2008 6:50 AM
hi there! i'm gonna miss your work!! hope uber will do something about this shutting it down thing...
Sep 25, 2008 8:29 AM
It's not over yet!

But in any case Chris, Darren and I will be blogging as well at http://aphotocontributor.typepad.co m
Sep 19, 2008 3:07 AM
Hi, I have been watching your photography work for a bit and I really like them because it is rare from a professional photographer to shot real people with real emotions especially from famous people.
Sep 24, 2008 5:57 PM
Thanks a lot
Sep 18, 2008 9:18 AM
Hey Thorsten.
I bought myself a used Leica R4. Now I'm in the R gang too. Part of this is because of your influence. The camera isn't in perfect condition, but it was affortable. I'll run a test roll thourgh it and probably use it for a reportage on Sunday.

Feels nice. Summicron 50/2 looks good and I hope it comes up to expectation. Should be pretty similar to M.

So well, now I am even more a red-dot elitist. But I don't care, I use other cameras too, Leicas are just good. Form a first glance I think that R is largerly underrated.

Ric
Sep 18, 2008 9:27 AM
Hey, that's great. Congratulations.

Chris will be green of envy ;-) and that's his own damn fault ;-)

The R4 is actually a nice camera and a nice size and sound. And it's easy to get one as many were produced and it is said to have a "faulty electronics." (Which mean that some R4 go dead, but I've never had any problems with mine).

You can probably find an inexpensive winder or motor to go with it. Gives an even better hold on it and balance.

The 50mm f/2.0 is reputed to be one of the best 50mm lenses in the world. And still is. I find 50mm a bit dull as I prefer 80mm mostly - but I must admit I'm blown by the quality of the Summicron 50mm f/2 when I use it.
Sep 18, 2008 1:42 PM
Yes, sure. Electronics. A photographer I know, which has anything from Leicaflex to R8..., told me: look my brand new R4 went dead pretty soon. If you buy an R4 now, it most probably has survived. A visual check shows that mine works, a couple of films will tell.

As much as I love M... this R is nice. Leicaflexes are very expensive and in any case, having an electronic SLR with good exposure is pretty nice. Working with flash is easier too.

The R4 is the smallest of the series, this is also why I have chosen it. The only thing I miss is the 1/2000", which would allow me to open my lens more. The camera fits well in the hand.


80mm is nice for reportage, concert photos. I like the 50, but sometimes you can't get near enough or you need the tele-effect.

I pretty much like the 90/2 with its fancy retractable lens-hood. Probably if I find myself using the camera, I'll look for one.

I'll blog about the camera probably!

So when you come to Italy or I go to Denemark, we will have even more material for a chat, hah!

PS: I so much wished Leica would introduce a new digital back: it would keep the R system alive (no, I don't want a full digital R camera). Imagine a full-frame module! Slap it in for some newspaper work and put your slide or b&w film in when you can have more time for your images.
Sep 16, 2008 12:59 AM
Hi Thorsten,

I just downloaded one of your free e-books, 20 Portraits of 2007. Excellent work! Love the images. Are you going to release another one for 2008?

Thanks,
Mathew
Sep 18, 2008 9:28 AM
Glad you liked it. I liked the idea so I might do it again in January 2009 of the 2008 portraits.

I'm also planning to do a 2004-2008 photo book but that's a slightly bigger project. Might be a 2004-2010 book then ;-)
Sep 15, 2008 4:59 PM
Thank u so much for the Comment.

I was totally deep inside your pictures and works, this sort of life without moves, but full of energy.


I look forward that we can have the time to meet/ speak/ work together.

I' m really feeling the energy on your page.

Peace and Light.
Sep 18, 2008 9:30 AM
Well, we might work with something one day. You know I worked with Noelle? (will be blogging about it when she get her site updated)
Sep 12, 2008 8:58 AM
Your uber is really interesting
Sep 18, 2008 9:30 AM
Thanks.
Sep 09, 2008 7:39 AM
I really enjoyed reading your blog!
Sep 09, 2008 9:53 AM
Happy to hear response like that. Thanks!
Aug 25, 2008 3:47 PM
hey,

thanks for the comment. My M8 is MOSTLY a camera for personal work, so no backup unfortunately. I use Canon's for work...the minute either Leica or Mamiya release a digital rangefinder with 16-22mp, I'll ditch my Canon setup....

Anyways, great work. keep me posted.
andy
Sep 09, 2008 9:54 AM
That day will come. Wonde what will happen the day all cameras are 100MP... which qualities photographers will start looking for instead of size
Aug 19, 2008 1:04 PM
Aug 19, 2008 11:47 AM
nice page
Sep 09, 2008 9:52 AM
Thank you, belatedly!
Aug 07, 2008 8:42 PM
xoxo hope all is well!
Aug 06, 2008 5:12 AM
any chance we can see thoose judas priest shots of yours ?
Aug 11, 2008 5:19 PM
Will be doing a Rock'n roll post soon and will make sure to include them...!
Aug 11, 2008 7:10 PM
can't wait !
Jul 29, 2008 6:11 AM
Impressive work, nice gallery. I'm new to uber and your blog is great, hopefully I'll add some photos representing my country soon. I like your style as a documentary photographer, very informative and beautiful.
Jul 30, 2008 6:55 AM
Thanks. You're almost a Leica shooter with that FED camera! I kind of envy the place you live, because you can shoot so different stuff.
Sep 01, 2008 3:29 AM
Actually I haven't used the FED camra for a long time. Shooting digital now. It's too expensive for me to work fully with film and there's no proessional places to develope or print. So, I chose digital. Thanks. But the place is indeed interesting for photographing, for living it might be a bit harsh.
Jul 23, 2008 11:54 PM
Thank you so much for sharing! I agree about falling in love with your tools and staying in love with photography. I use new and old school tools. I have nice DSLR's and a point and shoot I carry all the time and old rangefinders, twin lenses - they all have good things I love about them. Sometimes you have to make choices according to situations - when I go on trips - especially overseas, I have to be really efficient and thoughtful. I will check back for you new works. Thanks,

Marilyn
Jul 24, 2008 4:18 PM
Thanks. I hope you will post more on your site.
Jun 12, 2008 1:47 PM
Thanks for your comment, your work is very inspiring.
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